Bush’s Next Invasion: Vietnam?
Following the president’s logic, our best move is to repeat a huge mistake.
Re-invade Vietnam!
Oh yes. You thought the Bush administration was fresh out of ideas? You thought that with Karl Rove leaving, the administration that brought us the war in Iraq and “Mission Accomplished” had no more tricks up its sleeve?
Think again.
On Wednesday, speaking before a Veterans of Foreign Wars audience, President Bush did something he had previously avoided: He compared the Iraq war with the Vietnam War, agreeing that Vietnam does hold lessons for U.S. policy in Iraq.
Can’t argue with that. For most Americans, the lessons of Vietnam were reasonably clear before we invaded Iraq and have been painfully reinforced by the ongoing disaster there:
Don’t fight needless wars; don’t go blundering around in countries where you don’t know the language, history or culture; don’t underestimate the power of nationalism, ethnicity and religion to bind together — or tear apart — people whose interests otherwise seem to diverge or converge; and, most of all, don’t imagine that military force can solve fundamentally political problems.
But the president, who has his own very special set of history books, drew the public’s attention to some entirely different lessons from Vietnam. To Bush, the “unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America’s withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens.”
Right! To Bush, the tragedy of the Vietnam War is that we didn’t let it drag on for another decade or so.
Some might quibble with Bush’s understanding of historical causation. Yes, many innocent civilians suffered in the aftermath of the U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam — but it’s more accurate to attribute their suffering to the prolongation of the war itself, rather than to the U.S. withdrawal as such.
It’s hard to be precise (as is the case in Iraq today, no one kept careful count of Vietnamese civilian casualties, and all sides in the conflict had an incentive to fudge the true figures), but somewhere between 1 million and 4 million civilians died as the war needlessly dragged on, many killed by U.S. weapons. Millions more were displaced.
But those are details.
Bush went on to assert that “another price to our withdrawal from Vietnam” was the rise of “the enemy we face in today’s struggle, those who came to our soil and killed thousands of citizens” on 9/11.
Yup — it’s so obvious! The U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam caused the rise of Al Qaeda — and, by extension, “our withdrawal from Vietnam” ultimately turned Iraq into “the central front” in “the war on terror.”
Once you’re in the right frame of mind — the Right frame of mind, I should say — the logic becomes blindingly clear:
Step 1: In 1975, the Vietnam War ended and young Osama bin Laden, age 18, saw that the mighty U.S. could be brought low and that an unhappy citizenry could push a democratically elected government to end an unpopular war.
Step 2: Hmm. This step is a little tougher. Al Qaeda attacked the U.S. on 9/11. Then Bin Laden, bearing the U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam constantly in mind, um . . . somehow tricked us into going to war in Iraq . . . where Al Qaeda had no presence prior to the U.S. invasion . . . because he knew we’d make a mess of things . . . and that Al Qaeda could move in while we were bogged down fighting insurgents . . . and bog us down even more?
Something like that.
And from there, we easily reach Step 3: We are stuck in a quagmire in Iraq, just as in Vietnam! Millions of civilians are paying the price for U.S. over-reaching — just as in Vietnam! Our credibility is suffering — just as in Vietnam! The American public has lost faith in the war — just as in Vietnam! Bin Laden is happy to see us brought low — just as in Vietnam! If we leave, more bad things may happen, and Bin Laden will also be happy — just as in Vietnam!
Step 4. Therefore, as the president explained Wednesday, we must stay in Iraq forever, until every last terrorist or every last Iraqi civilian is dead, whichever comes first.
But Bush forgot to mention Step 5, which follows logically from Steps 1 to 4.
How can we show the innocent civilians of Southeast Asia that we haven’t forgotten them and simultaneously send a message of resolve to the Iraqi people? How can we show Al Qaeda once and for all that the U.S. is not to be trifled with?
It’s time for Step 5:
Re-invade Vietnam.
Because no matter what they say — it’s never too late to repeat the mistakes of the past.
Rosa Brooks is a professor at the Georgetown University Law Center and the author of numerous articles on international law, human rights, the law of war, and a book, “Can Might Make Rights? Building the Rule of Law After Military Interventions”. She can be contacted at rbrooks@latimescolumnists.com.
© 2007 Los Angeles Times
There’s only one thing more worrisome than an insane president: a Congress which tolerates it.
As I’ve said elsewhere — they impeached Clinton on a technicality, and they ought to impeach Bush on a generality.
Is the US military an organization of sheep?
Don’t be suprised in the next invasion is of a neighborhood near you. Maybe even yours. Twenty odd years ago I pointed to Reagan and Negropont’s death squads in Central America and said that no empire does things abroad that it will not do eventually at home. When the economy goes to hell and/or resistance becomes to effective and popular, the occupation will be here and Blackwater goons will be knocking their rifle butts on a door near you — or maybe yours (or mine).
Our military are not sheep. Just the PC general staff that follows orders in the same manner that we saw with the SS.
A well greased hemp rope awaits all the politicians and military officers who have obeyed illegal orders.
Since the Current Occupant is drawing paralells with Viet Nam, the thing that seems obvious is that Bush is trying to equate Cambodia with Iran. Think about it. Is he saying that we didn’t win in Viet Nam because Congress stopped the Pres. from invading Cambodia? Is he actually saying that if Congress doesn’t let him invade Iran that we will “lose” in Iraq just like we did in Viet Nam?
I can see it now….the failure in Iraq isn’t because the monsters in this administration were to blame. It’s the Congress and the American people who created the failure because they didn’t have the backbone to win “The War on Terrorism” and wouldn’t let them invade IRAN!
And, by the way, the people of the world lose either way.
We should invade Vietnam again, they grow most of the world’s peppercorns. Over the years, there have been more wars fought over control of pepper, than there have been over oil. We could control the world pepper market, everyone needs pepper, we’re addicted to it.
Anyway, it would keep our economy healthy, Halliburton is the only corporation in the world that could rebuild Vietnam’s infastructure.
Excuse me everyone, I’m trying to get a job as a Bush speech writer, don’t pay any attention,___ I’m just practicing.
BTW, that is a fact, more wars have been fought over pepper, than for any other reason.
Jaded Prole writes: Don’t be suprised in the next invasion is of a neighborhood near you. Maybe even yours. Twenty odd years ago I pointed to Reagan and Negropont’s death squads in Central America and said that no empire does things abroad that it will not do eventually at home. When the economy goes to hell and/or resistance becomes to effective and popular, the occupation will be here and Blackwater goons will be knocking their rifle butts on a door near you — or maybe yours (or mine).
effective or the economy collapses they will be sending the Black Water thugs into the streets. Therefore as I have stated on this site before buy some guns if you don’t have any and learn to use them. Believe me an armed and informed population is the best defense against fascism. Oh, by the way, you will have to be willing to shoot. So, when the shit hits the fan don’t roll over and play dead. Stand up and defend yourself and the Constitution.
bongofury I hope that you are wrong.
I have the same reservations that many Americans must have felt before the Civil War began. I keep thinking of a peaceful resolution.
According to the census, the population of the United States is 302,688,289. Bush has 31% support. 31% of the population is 93,833,373. (Given the numbers are raw and do not reflect age or gender. Actual numbers will be lower understandibly.)
I would venture that barely 10% of Bush’s supporters are so fanatical to this regime that they are willing to shoot Americans in the streets. That means that 9,383,337 people in this country will willingly support fascism.
If these people are divided and distributed evenly across the 50 states, then fascist squads will number 187,667 per state.
I hope it doesn’t come to that because it’s very disturbing.
In the late 1960’s proponents of the Vietnam war repeated endlessly that if the United States was not victorious there would be a second Korean war, that Japan, Taiwan and the Phillpines would go communist and this country would be expelled entirely from Asia. We lost that war decisively yet none of those things happened. Cambodia experienced a genocide that was equally the responsibility of Nixon and Kissinger as the Khmer Rouge. If we finally get completely out of Iraq (which looks increasingly improbable) the dire predictions of the moronic and bloody-minded Neocon Internationale will not take place. More Iraqis may indeed be killed as the various forms of Iraqi atavism increase their arsenals. In the end, the Shiites will emerge the winners simply because they have the numbers. And Uncle Sam will still be neck deep in the toilet bowl with his hand on the chain thanks to the infallible genius of George Wanker Bush. In the far distant future, when the names Reagan and Clinton are as unknown as Rutherford B. Hayes and Zachary Taylor are to us, people will still be writing about this period and wondering how a blithering moron and downright evil punk like George Wanker Bush ever could have been elected.
MORE EVIDENCE THAT DUBYA WAS NEVER A WAR PRESIDENT, JUST A BAG FULL OF HOT AIR AND MONEY THAT FOOLED EVERY LIMBAUGH DITTO HEAD IN AMERICA.
Rosa has put together an entertaining and informative article. Thank You.
My step 1: Bush flip flopped after previously saying there was no parallel between Vietnam and Iraq.
My step 2: Killing fields type bloodbath directly after we left, Re-education camps, and boat people. Which one does not fit in this group? No doubt there was some violence in process of the mass migration of Vietnamese out of Vietnam or into re-education. However, the killing fields were in Cambodia at the hands of the extremely brutal Khymer Rouge. Cambodia conducted raids into Vietnam up to the point that Vietnam finally declared war on Cambodia. The lead up to that war and the war itself, including a brief Chinese invasion, was extremely bloody, but that was 1978 when there was a declaration of war. No direct relationship to our departure.
Let’s see, step number 3, lessons to be learned from the Vietnam War. Nixon took four years to get us out of Vietnam. By no random accident, that happened just before his re-election. We could have saved all those lives that were lost in the previous 3-4 years if we had withdrawn earliar.
How about this lesson? We owe it to our troops to NOT have any future quagmires, situations with little probability of success that will only over extend and break our military.
Rebel Farmer wrote: Is he saying that we didn’t win in Viet Nam because Congress stopped the Pres. from invading Cambodia?
RF, I really like your posts, but my understanding of history is that the US did invade Cambodia, and did so without Congressional approval. Historian Ben Kiernan and Taylor Owen have used a combination of sophisticated satellite mapping, recently unclassified data about the extent of bombing activities, and peasant testimony, to argue that there was a strong correlation between villages targeted by U.S. bombing and recruitment of peasants by the Khmer Rouge. Kiernan and Owen argue that “Civilian casualties in Cambodia drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that had enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began”. In his study of Pol Pot’s rise to power, Kiernan argues that “Pol Pot’s revolution would not have won power without U.S. economic and military destabilisation of Cambodia” and that the U.S. carpet bombing “was probably the most significant factor in Pol Pot’s rise.”
IS BUSH AS STUPID AS PUTIN? RUSSIA STAYED THE COURSE FOR 11 OR 12 YEARS , AND THEN WENT HOME AND FILED BANKRUPTCY. RUSSIA SOLD REAGAN THE BERLIN WALL FOR BILLIONS IN ORDER TO SAVE THEIR ASS. REMEMBER?
Kem Patrick wrote: BTW, that is a fact, more wars have been fought over pepper, than for any other reason.
I thought it was sugar, really.
THE LORAX: I think you should adjust your statistics for states red and blue. Florida would have more armed Republican true-believers, and they are my neighbors. I don’t think I’d like to match rifle shots with their ilk… long practiced on shooting deer and other pacifist creatures.
MORDECAI: The founders were indeed visionaries, but not in the ilk of sci-fi experts, thus without a fore-knowledge of computer technology, they did not include any viable manuals for righting elections stolen by the use of push button technology.
Yet another person trying to educate us about the lessons of Vietnam, when it’s already been done much better.
The problem with Brooks’ analysis is that “don’t fight needless wars”–the most radical lesson she’s willing to put forward–is a meaningless phrase. After all, there were (and still are) plenty of people arguing that we needed very much to attack Vietnam. How about this much more straightforward lesson: “To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime, it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” Or even this one: Vietnamese lives matter exactly as much as American lives, and the US had no right to end them.
Nope Shane, sugar was second. Long before there was a need for gasoline, the Chinese and all of the other nations in Indonesia had well over a hundred long and bloody wars over control of pepper plantations. When the gem merchant Polo and his son Marco were traveling in China, the most sought after gems were small vials of peppercorns. They were more far more valuable than rubies or star sapphires.
Then of course during Rome’s reign, their troops were paid once a year with a bag of salt. The soldiers sold the salt for gold coins. That’s where the term, “the man is not worth his salt” derived, when referring to a sub-standard soldier.
It seems as if humanity always has to have someting to wage wars over. Currently it’s oil, when that commodity runs out, what will be next? Maybe our grandkids will be fightng over moon dust, or Martian soil. We’ll think of something. In the meantime, stock up on pepper, it was a buck a pound in 1965, now it’s near twenty for good peppercorns. Of course, Tic-Tacs are about $40.00 a pound___ so I dunno.
You can come and stay with us Siouxrose, no one around here would ever shoot a beautiful gal. In fact you can all come here when Bush declares war on Iran, we’ve got tons of beans and rice, corn meal and hot peppers. Bring some natural peanut butter, I’m a little short on that.
On the issue here, Bush really is a dangerous psycho, no telling what he may do.
Not only our Prez is a chickenhawk; he is a delusional chickenhawk. We would have won Vietnam! Only if he had the opportunity to put his blowing-up-frogs-in-the-backyard skill into good use.
-BeingSpied24/7
Right on, Rosa! Bush is really unbelievable (at least to most of us!). He is young enough that he is in for some sobering times as the judgments of history start showing what a blundering fool he is.
I thought Shrub was already in his “sobering times”. I just don’t think enough people figured on the amount of brain damage his drinking had done.
Kem: I don’t like pepper. Got any other suggestions about what I can bring? What state are you in anyway?
“Or even this one: Vietnamese lives matter exactly as much as American lives, and the US had no right to end them.”
Imagine a wall 50 times the size of the memorial in D.C., and one only begins to recognize the scale of what happened to the Vietnamese as a result of the US war against them.
When will we ever see a film from the point of view of one of the internees at one of the US’s “Freedom Hamlets”? Probably never . . . at least not from a Hollywood director . . .
He’s got “new” NUKES and, soon, a fleet of robot Reapers to deliver them. As Homer once said: “With President Coco Bananas in the White House, anything’s possible.”
Why invade when you can annihilate with a joystick?
the fact is that vietnam was a civil war. after u.s. troops left the civil war played itself out as it would have had no one attacked it and invaded. no vietnamese troops attack the u.s. in 1861-65 u.s. civil war—if they had it would have been seen as an outrageously arrogant and evil act.so the whole idea voiced by bush is a straw man argument–nothing there
one thing more: without the u.s. invasion 3 million more vietnamese and all u.s. soldiers killed in the war would have stayed alive.
if u.s. troops leave iraq there will be no such major war as the invaders are claiming; the shiah will not try to conquer iraq absent u.s. assistance. and kurds without help from zionists and u.s. cannot fight iran and turkey. some small fighting like what happened after russians were kicked from afghanistan thats all.
then there will probably be an islamic govt as a result of getting rid of saddam hussein.
the fighting is very little “civil strife” despite what cnn and fox “news” tells us. most of the so called “sectarian bombings” are orchestrated by u.s./u.k. “black ops’—the mujahideen in iraq know this; the problem between shiah and sunni is mostly confined to those WITHIN the puppet govt—the people of iraq know very well who the enemy is
Just bring yourself and friends Rebel Farmer, anyone as nice and intelligent as you are is a far enough pleasure for the mountains of Arizona. Uhh, maybe you could bring some of those good bugs that eat bad garden bugs, the ones that are developed and sold from the Oregon farms.
Kem, after oil, I predict the next global wars to be fought will be over fresh water.
Shane: Good point! The water wars are already starting! We are going to run out of pottable water long before the oil dries up.
KEM: How much snow do you get? I love the Arizona mountains as long as somebody else cuts the firewood. What kind of soils do you have there? I’m selling my farm right now and am making some major life changes.
We don’t get much snow Reb, 2 to 3 inches a year at our 6,000 foot elevation, it rains in the winter and in the July, August mosoon season. We are in south eastern AZ. Not a lot of rain either. The soil here is very poor for crops, lots of good ’side grass’ when it does rain and we have thousands of old Oak trees with deep roots that can handle a few years of drought.
The land near a little town named St.David has very good crop soil, it’s a Mormon town, about ten miles north of Benson on AZ route 80. Benson is going to boom, a new housing development of 6 to 7,000 homes and the old copper mine in Bisbee is re-opening in the near future. But all of that is off the table as Nancy would say, until we see if Chenet/Bush race us into a depression.
KEM: I grow a lot of stuff hydroponically that doesn’t need good soils. Year round. All sustainable. Gotta have good water though. Got a BIG greenhouse?
Shane, good call. It is a shame too. With a single Australian designed Power Tower, we could purify enough sea water to funish all the water needs for a city the size of LA. The power towers use wind/solar combined, a totally clean energy and one tower will furnish the electrical needs for a million homes.
Think of what we could accomplish with three hundred of them, no more coal fired or nuke plants. We could crack sea water for hydrogen fuel at a very low cost also. But, who owns the sunbeams, the ocean water and the wind? No profit there. God, with the combined money the oil company’s have, think of the good they could accomplish if they invested just ten percent in clean energy. We need a man like the fictional character in the movie Pretty Woman.__ Or the gal playing at the piano!
If the sun’s beams were weapons of war, we wol dhav eahd solar energy ages ago.
I tried to edit three times, I must be stupid.
Hi KEM: What a sweet thought! Who knows, maybe the whole CD “community” should invest in land that is adjacent and make our own community not only in virtual space. I remember reading a story from myth where a couple shows such open-hearted love and devotion that when their mortal life spans are up, the pair are converted into trees that their limbs will forever be entwined. KEM you seem so good-hearted that if the shit hit the fan, I would not rule out an alien craft coming for you! Meanwhile, some time next year I will probably go on a book tour and if I am in Arizona, I’d love to meet with you! Maybe CD should have its own state to state “reunions” and people can pick a date to all meet at a coffee shop or something. Since this is a true battle for the Light of our land (not to mention our own souls) periodic replenishment through meaningful congress is ON the menu! (Or should be!)
Hey kids!
I like your idea Siouxrose! I did finally hook up with Kathyodat. I left an encripted note on a thread one day that I knew only she would understand. Figured out that she lives not far from me. We talk on the phone all the time now. It’s been wonderful and mutually supportive. She is a great gal. And I know that many of us in this CD community could really benefit by “hooking up” somehow. We have so many really wonderful folks out here in cyberspace. Anybody got any ideas about how to make a safe contact?
Siouxrose, you sure do know how to make people feel warm inside. I would give my right eye to meet you. (Of ocourse My right eye is dead now) so I’d give a lot of anything. Uhhh, I always thught I’d rather be a Canadian goose, they mate for life,___ quite often too I understand. When you are ready to come this way, we will meet you for sure.
Wish I could go on a book tour, I’m on my third novel of a trilogy and can’t get a literary agent to even read three chapters. They say it’s too contraversial, possibly too close to the truth and the Christans would have me and any publisher assinated.
Rebel. Contact, retired nurse, Linda Faye Kroll on the internet. She could act as a go between. She knows me.
I believe I understood your code to Kathy, I feared attemting to contact you after reading the farm articles, thought it might frighten you.
God help us,___ is this still America?
Kem: I wanted Kathy to contact Linda when we were on the DU thread. I can’t find Linda’s contact from that thread. Can you post it here? I will have Kathy contact Linda too. I think they would get along great! I have to go to bed now. I’ll check back in the morning.
Nite
Hi Reb, No greenhouse,___ we do have a house cat.
Water is not a probllem, our well is only 80 feet and lots of people in the valley have huge rain barrels and only use that for their annual needs. When it rains a two incher, our dry bed river runs twelve feet deep and looks and sounds like the rapids above Niagara Falls. The mountain right across from our land will have fifty waterfalls spewing for a week. Land is very expensive in our valley. In the St david/Double Adobe areas, land is quite reasonable and there are many artesian wells there. There may be a website for it.
Linda can be reaced at:
LindafayeKroll(tenfingers10toes@yahoo.com)
All of that is on my sent e-mails.
That above is exactly how it is on my e-mails to linda. But it don’t automatically turn blue here.
I got way off of the subject matter there gang, sorry. THE MAN, I believe you are right on all four opinions. Bush is not leaving Iraq though, and he will bomb Iran, if he uses nukes as many believe he will, oh-oh!!!
Great article Ms. Brooks, and funny too in a very dark humor way. They featured clips from this speech on a recent Daily Show. The Shrub also mentioned every war in which any Vet in the audience might have been involved just to flatter them I guess.
If you all really want to know what is going on in Iraq read www.democracynow.org for 8/21 entitled “Iraq Does Not Exist Anymore”: Journalist Nir Rosen on How the U.S. Invasion of Iraq Has Led to Ethnic Cleansing, a Worsening Refugee Crisis and the Destabilization of the Middle East”
This article may even get some of the Bushwackers supporters to rethink their position. They may not give a damm about the people of the middle east, just as they did not care about the Vietnamese but even their pea brains will be hard pressed not to see the damage that the Iraqi invasion has done to the good old US of A.
Concerning the discussion on surviving the future, one of the best bets is co-housing. www.ic.org. You may be able to find a group of like minded people in your area.
Rudy and his dog-killin’ wife du jour wanna re-invade Vietnam, too! Good thing the Loonitary Decider’s speech writers specialize in originality - from Oct. 2006:
“America must remember one of the lessons of the Vietnam War. Then, as now, we fought a war with the wrong strategy for several years. And then, as now, we corrected course and began to show real progress. Many historians today believe that by about 1972 we and our South Vietnamese partners had succeeded in defeating the Vietcong insurgency and in setting South Vietnam on a path to political self-sufficiency. But America then withdrew its support, allowing the communist North to conquer the South. The consequences were dire, and not only in Vietnam: numerous deaths in places such as the killing fields of Cambodia, a newly energized and expansionist Soviet Union, and a weaker America. The consequences of abandoning Iraq would be worse.”
Let’s not forget another thing that makes Bush so wrong. WE did not invade Vietnam; we inherited it from the collapsing French Colonial Empire.
We just shot and bombed the ever lovin’ crap out of it. Over an idiot Domino Theory that was a fig leaf to our own Imperial ambitions.
They hated us for our freedoms….
remember what the CIA states: Once a CIA operative, always a CIA operative. Bin Laden worked for the CIA during the war between Afghanistan and Russia and was the ClA’s main man to go to. Now they call him a terroist. is it possible that Bin Laden is still working for the CIA and recruiting these naive arabs to join his club to help destroy the evil empire of America? I believe Bin Laden is still working as a CIA operative to help the Pentagon, Mussad, and the Bush administration keep terrorism going. The people that are recruited to join his club think they are jihadists working for Allah and Bin Laden but actually are working for America and Isreal. When the Pentagon lost half their budget when the cold war was over they needed a substitute to replace the cold war with the war on terroism so they can keep that 600 billion budget each year coming in and the 100 billion a year to use for the war against terroism. Think about it. it’s not that far fetched. Remember the statement President Eisenhower said: Beware of the Military Industrial Complex. So I say: People beware. We are being duped into believing that terroists are coming out of every nook and cranny to kill us. Bush, the Pentagon, and Mussad are the real terroists. If you think i’m a nut case i predict that Bush will start a war with Iran before he leaves office. the reason: to help Isreal get rid of their enemies. simple as that. then you might think about my opinions i’ve just stated above. People wake up and smell the roses.
Hi KEM (and others): One way to bring people together could be a “50 states common dreams initiative.” Each state could have a sponsor… Kem, you could sponsor a camp-out on your property, for instance. My home is small, but I live near a state park and people could conceivably rent camp sites. We are largely united in sharing similar (for the most part) ideals and in some instances, sensibilities. Perhaps this is the human equivalent of a chemical experiment where the more certain “molecules” aggregate, the greater their capacity to draw others their way!
As for the book tour, I am self-financing it, KEM. Publishers do not like my work, either. They either go for too much violence masquerading as entertainment, or they want easy-to-follow recipe books that tell people how to make $ or get laid. I can’t do that kind of thing. To be a “commercial” success in this phase when US culture could best be compared with a waste disposal industry is actually not something to aspire towards. On the other hand, it’s not much fun either being burned as a heretic, or silenced to the point of fiscal attrition via the covert strategy best known as “the politics of exclusion.” One form of tithing is to give one’s treasure to the world, and that’s why I am self-publishing AND will do some travels and lectures at Unitarian churches and/or hip bookstores in certain states. It’s my litmus test. If I can’t create any “cerebral waves” en route, it’s off to a foreign land/horizon.
Now what is this Bush dog trying to sell Americans? Another scare tactic and guilt? How dare this “deserter” even mention the Vietnam War. This so called President is running crazy what with selling arms to the Saudi’s and Israel and India. And now trying to force an extended war in Iraq by using guilt. There is no comparison to these two wars. But I guess Bush is trying to fool the young ones once again. There is no justification for signing up for this war and parents should stop being”proud”that their sons and daughters are enlisting. This pres. reminds me of a mad dog, because every time he opens his mouth, I could swear he’s foaming at the mouth.
He is just plain insane. With Rove gone and most of
his brain missing, he is just flailing about. If the
wimps in Congress would do their job and get on with
impeaching Cheney, the rest of his brain would be
gone and then it might be obvious to the remaining
boot-licking supporters that he really is an idiot.
It would be almost fun to watch the results, and the
statements that came out of his mouth would be fodder
for satirists for decades to come. As long as in one
of his spasmodic episodes he didn’t push the button…
Let us not forget the REAL reason for all these phony wars, PROFIT for the industrial military complex. Check out the whistle blower article on this site.
Anyone, that dares to try to tell the American people about what is really going on with Haliburton “reconstruction” and arms sales get crushed. There is absolutely no difference between Bushco and his lackies in the Justice dept and the Mafia.
Anyone, in the Justice Dept. or for that matter in any of these companies who dares to try to stop the war profiteering racket gets fired, demoted or even tortured and imprisoned.
I agree with Bongofury about the black water threat, glad to know somebody else sees it.
I’d give a lot to see George dress up in his flight suit and waddle off to fight anywhere. The sissy little shit wouldn’t last an hour.
Our President is not insane. Our Congress is not complicit. That places the blame in the wrong place. Our government is run by corporations and banks. They are the ones to go after. Congress and the President are paid mouthpieces of the banks and corporations.